He issued this warning during an appearance on Fox Business Sunday, Nov. 17. Ramaswamy emphasized that the DOGE – which he co-leads with X owner Elon Musk – will shut down entire government agencies as part of its effort to abolish waste.
The entrepreneur told "Sunday Morning Futures" host Maria Bartiromo: "First, we want to go right through executive action to do the failures of the executive branch that need to be addressed."
"The dirty little secret is the people who we elected to run the government, they're not the ones who actually run the government," he said. "It's the unelected bureaucrats in the administrative state. That was created through executive action; it's [going to] be fixed through executive action."
"Think about the Supreme Court's environment over the past several years," continued Ramaswamy. "They have held that many of those regulations are unconstitutional. Rescind those regulations, and then that gives us the industrial logic to then downsize that size of that administrative state. That can be achieved without Congress."
The former presidential candidate also emphasized the importance of "scoring some early wins" before turning to the "bigger portions of the federal budget that need to be addressed one by one." (Related: Vivek Ramaswamy campaigns for Donald Trump after dropping out of the presidential race.)
"How can the president of the United States, who's been elected with a historical mandate, actually do the things that voters voted for? [We The People] haven't voted for incremental change. We have voted for sweeping change, and the voters actually deserve to get it. And we're focused on how to do that as early and as quickly as possible."
DOGE to begin by slashing jobs in the executive branch
The two DOGE co-commissioners laid out their plans in an op-ed published Wednesday, Nov. 20, in the Wall Street Journal. According to Musk and Ramaswamy, they intend to identify "thousands" of regulations for President-elect Donald Trump to scrap – justifying "mass headcount reductions" across government.
"The two of us will advise DOGE at every step to pursue three major kinds of reform: regulatory rescissions, administrative reductions and cost savings. We will focus particularly on driving change through executive action based on existing legislation rather than by passing new laws," they wrote in the op-ed.
Musk and Ramaswamy pointed to several recent Supreme Court decisions – which the latter also referenced during his interview with Bartiromo – that have sought to curtail the power of the administrative state. They argued that a "plethora of current federal regulations" exceed agency authority, and slashing such regulations should allow for "at least" proportional cuts to the number of government workers.
"A drastic reduction in federal regulations provides sound industrial logic for mass head-count regulations across the federal bureaucracy," they wrote. "Not only are fewer employees required to enforce fewer regulations, but the agency would produce fewer regulations once its scope of authority is properly limited."
The duo also addressed concerns about civil service protections that could potentially block Trump from firing federal workers. While these protections aim to "protect employees from political retaliation," the statute permits so-called "'reductions in force' that don't target specific employees."
"The statute further empowers the president to 'prescribe rules governing the competitive service' … [and] that power is broad," they added. "With this authority, Trump can implement any number of 'rules governing the competitive service' that would curtail administrative growth – from large-scale firings to relocation of federal agencies out of the Washington area."
But according to experts who previously spoke to The Hill, DOGE would be limited to an advisory capacity as an outside-of-government commission. It could also face opposition not only from the executive branch, but also from Congress.
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